Let’s face it, with what full Prime Rib Roast costs these days, you can’t afford NOT to cook it perfectly. So don’t waste your time with other posts—here’s the simple truth: If you get the temperatures right, your prime rib will be spectacular. If you don’t get the temperatures right, it won’t. And who knows more about temperature than ThermoWorks? No one, that’s who.
Whether you like your prime rib bone-in, boneless, or with the bone cut off and tied back on… Whether you plan on smoking your prime rib, or oven-roasting… Whether you like it sliced thin with horseradish sauce and legumes, or slabbed with potatoes and gravy….
How you cook the meat itself is where all the glory is to be found. What you want is a crisp, savory crust on the outside with perfect, pink, edge-to-edge doneness inside (no unsightly gray band). Each of those things takes its own preparation. Here’s how to do it…
Prime Rib Doneness Temperature
Here’s the gist of the whole thing: prime rib roast has a pull temp of 125°F (52°C) in the coolest part of the prime rib roast for medium-rare doneness. That can vary a little with different cooking temperatures, but basically, if you get nothing else from this, remember that
HOW TO COOK A PRIME RIB AT A GLANCE
(Prep time: 3-5 hours)
- Trimming: Whether you’re roast is bone on or boneless, trim off any excess gristle or fat. You want as close to a round, aerodynamic shape as possible with a fat cap that is ¼ inch thick at the very most.
- Tying: Increase the aerodynamics and evenness of your prime rib by tying it with string in between each bone or, if boneless, every inch or so.
- Seasoning: Generously apply your favorite seasoning to all sides. We love just kosher salt and fresh ground black pepper.
- Chilling: Prepare your prime rib for searing by putting your tied prime rib into the freezer until it measures 30°F (-1°C) just below the surface.
- Searing: Straight from the freezer, sear your prime rib in a piping hot skillet (cast iron if you’ve got one) with a surface temp of 400°F (204°C) or more. Sear 2 ½ minutes on each side until a dark brown crust forms all around.
- Roasting (or smoking): Pre-heat your oven or smoker to 225°F (107°C). Place your seared prime rib on a rack on a backing sheet, to allow air to circulate below the meat.
- Verifying Doneness: Cook your Prime Rib Roast until the lowest internal temperature you can find with an instant-read thermometer is 125°F (52°C) for medium rare or 130°F (55°C) for medium doneness.
- Resting: Remove the roast from the oven. Loosely tent with foil and let it rest on the counter for 30 minutes. During this time the lowest internal temperature should rise to between 130 and 134°F (55-57°C) for medium rare or to between 135 and 140°F (58-60°C) for medium.
- Carving: Carve to desired thickness. If you carefully follow this method, you should have a deep brown, rich, savory crust with perfect, edge-to-edge pinkness inside.
- Bask in the praise from your friends and family.
HOW TO COOK A PRIME RIB IN DEPTH: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW…
Part 1: Preparing Your Prime Rib Roast
How to Trim Your Prime Rib Roast:
The way you trim your prime rib roast will largely depend on whether you buy a bone-in or boneless rib roast.
Which one should you buy? The debate has gone on for years, with the pro-bones arguing that the bones contribute more flavor, and, if pressed, insisting that the marrow was seeping in from the bones to the meat. This has been shown by J. Kenji López-Alt , a team at Texas A&M’s Meat Science Department, and Meathead Goldwyn to be untrue. The marrow in the ribs is the wrong kind for “seeping” and the bones themselves are pretty impenetrable—even to the gooey, tasty kind of marrow.
But there is one way in which leaving the bone in can actually have an effect: as a heat buffer. Having a shield of bone and connective tissue on your meat can help to prevent overcooking. But if you like your roast rare to medium-rare, it can actually lead to chewy, undercooked meat right near the bone.
In the end, you’ll have to decide based on your preference. A standing rib roast (which can be as small as two bones or as long as the full seven) is beautiful to behold, but more difficult to carve—you will probably just cut the bones off to serve it anyway. Yes, a bone-in roast will usually be cheaper per pound, but you will be paying for bone weight, which is not directly useful to you.*
On the other hand, boneless prime rib roasts are easy to cook, easy to carve, but cost more per pound. The choice is yours, but in the ThermoWorks kitchen, we most often cook boneless roasts. Either way, you should spend a moment examining your roast with a knife in hand before roasting.
Trim off any gristle and any excess fat. A nice fat cap can enhance the mouthfeel of the Prime Rib but you don’t want more than ¼ inch of thickness.
If you go boneless, you have the option to trim off the flat part that extends away from the main muscle. We always do. This increases the aerodynamic shape of the roast which will help it cook more evenly. The flat part always overcooks anyway.
* If you choose to get a bone-in roast, we recommend having your butcher prepare it “cut and tied,” with the bones cut off and tied back onto the muscle. This creates an easy carving situation while maintaining presentation and heat-buffering advantages. The bones are fun and tasty to gnaw on after dinner, or you can use them to make a tremendous beef stock.
Tying Your Prime Rib Roast:
Tying a rib roast is very important. If you don’t know how to do it (YouTube will gladly teach you), have your butcher tie it for you. By tying the roast, you can create a more uniform shape and density along its length. This translates directly into more even cooking, with less chance of a gray ring around the inside edge of your holiday-table centerpiece. The tying also evens out the surface, allowing for better browning in the sear phase, and will result in a better-looking finished product that is easier to slice.
If you have a bone-in roast, tie between each of the bones and across the length of the roast. If you have a boneless roast, space your string every inch or so. Tie the strings taught to hold the roast as compact as possible.
How to Season Your Prime Rib Roast:
Prime rib doesn’t need a lot to dress it up, and will, in fact, do swimmingly with nothing but salt and pepper. Some people are tempted (especially if they are cooking their rib roast in a smoker) to put all kinds of powerful spice rubs on their rib roast. If you feel so inclined, that is your choice, though this meat really shines with classic flavors.
That being said, if you really want to dress it up and stay within a classic flavor palate, I recommend making a wet-rub of 3 cloves minced garlic, the minced leaves of 2 fresh rosemary sprigs, 1 teaspoon black pepper, 1.5 tablespoons dijon mustard, and 1/4 cup olive oil. Apply it after your sear but before it goes in the oven and you will be hailed as a luminary of the kitchen.
How to Pre-Rest Your Prime Rib Roast:
There is sadly no consensus on the appropriateness of a counter-rest phase in preparing a prime rib roast. For example, America’s Test Kitchen features three different methods for preparing a prime rib for roasting—1) salted in the refrigerator for 24 hours, 2) salted one hour in the refrigerator followed by pre-resting for two hours on the counter, and 3) just pre-resting for two hours on the counter. Other experts go straight to the oven without a pre-rest. While others suggest putting the prime rib in the freezer before searing, to chill the meat. All this ambiguity can be perplexing.
Here at ThermoWorks, we wanted to determine the effects of various thermal preparations prior to searing and cooking in a boneless prime rib roast. We roasted 5 boneless prime rib roasts, carefully monitoring the thermal state of each roast through our various stages of preparation, cooking, and resting. For two of the prime ribs, we rested the meat on the counter prior to searing and roasting. For three prime ribs, we placed the meat in the freezer prior to searing and roasting. We were curious to see which of these methods produced a finished result with the most desirable attributes of a finished prime rib—a crispy outer crust but with no discernible gray ring between the seared crust and the rosy pink meat inside!
We found that the best results came from seasoning the roast, then placing it in the freezer until the outside 1/4″ reached 30°F (-1°C), then moving right to the sear. This resulted in an almost undetectable gray ring on the roast.
SO, to properly prepare your Prime Rib Roast for searing without a resulting gray band, place a probe into the center of the roast just below the surface and set your ChefAlarm LOW alarm to 30°F (-1°C). Keep the roast in the freezer until the low alarm sounds.
* Note that this step will take approximately an hour in the freezer and will also add cooking time on the back end to bring the center of the meat back up from its chilled state before cooking. So, if you’re pressed for time, omit this step, but be prepared for a more pronounced gray, overcooked band of meat just below the crust.
Part 2: Cooking Your Prime Rib Roast
How to Sear Your Prime Rib Roast:
Searing is an important part of roasting a prime rib. Searing the roast first will kill the surface bacteria, which is a nice touch, especially when you are roasting at lower temperatures. However, searing is important from a culinary standpoint as well as a safety standpoint. We get a bit of a nice crisp-meat crust from the sear, but more importantly, we create a coating of Maillard-reaction browning all over the roast. This natural flavor enhancement will baste the meat during cooking with tastier juices than if we had put it in the oven raw.
To sear your roast, preheat your cast iron skillet to 500°F (260°C) as measured with an Industrial IR with Circle Laser (IRK-2) infrared thermometer. Remove your roast from the freezer and remove the probes immediately before searing. Sear the cold roast on all sides, giving each surface about 2.5 minutes against the pan, resulting in a “nicely browned” exterior.
How to Cook Your Prime Rib Roast:
Preheat your oven or smoker to 225°F (107°C).
Place the tip of your tracking thermometer probe into the center of the roast and set the target high temperature alarm to 125°F (52°C) on your ChefAlarm® for a perfectly pink medium-rare doneness. Because a prime rib Roast is such a large cut of meat, it will experience fairly significant Carryover Cooking (from 5-8°F [2-4°C] depending upon the size of the roast) while it rests. Your serving temperature should end up being around 130-134°F (55-57°C) throughout the roast which is just right!
Note that you really should cook such an expensive roast to Medium Rare to experience all of the beefy goodness you paid for. Normally, those who like a little darker brown on their portion (like the children in the room) can pull from the end slices. If you DO want to cook to medium, however, you can add an additional 5°F (2°C) or even—dare we say it—10°F (6°C) to your pull temp. That means pulling your roast near 130°F (55°C) or 135°F (58°C) and finishing after the rest with a final internal temperature 135-144°F (58-62°C).
How to Know When Your Prime Rib Roast is Done Cooking:
Using a leave-in probe thermometer like ChefAlarm® is important for making sure you don’t accidentally overshoot your target doneness temperature, but a probe that is not placed 100% correctly in the meat will also give you bad info about doneness. If the probe is too close to the surface, you’ll have colder meat deeper in the center. That’s why it’s important to also verify the doneness of the roast with an accurate instant-read thermometer like Thermapen® ONE.
When your ChefAlarm sounds, insert your Thermapen probe deep into the meat and pull it up slowly through the roast. Look for the lowest temperature you see. Meat is only as done as its least-done part! If you find a lower temperature than the one displayed on your leave-in thermometer, move the leave-in probe to the cooler spot and continue cooking. If you don’t find any lower temps, you’re good to move to the resting stage.
How to Rest Your Prime Rib Roast:
Once your roast reaches 125°F (52°C) and you verify its temperature with Thermapen ONE and remove it from the oven, cover it with aluminum foil to rest. All meats should be rested before cutting and serving them. The rest period allows for temperature gradients in the meat to even out, slowly cooling the exterior while the interior meat continues to rise in temperature. It also allows the muscle fibers to relax, reabsorbing the juices that they may have squeezed out in cooking.
We did some tests on this and found that during the rest period, our exterior temperature dropped while the interior temperatures continued to rise slightly. Perfect.
How to Carve Your Prime Rib Roast:
How you choose to carve your meat is up to you, but there are two—rather obvious—things that we want to point out. First, take off all the string you used to tie the roast up! No one wants to find a piece of cotton butcher twine caught in their teeth during a delicious dinner. Second, slice perpendicular to the cylinder. Don’t carve down the length of the roast…it will not be good!
Those two basics aside, thin slices or fat slabs are your prerogative. Use a sharp knife and go for it.
Other Considerations:
What About Reverse Searing?
One of the appealing features of a prime rib is the salty, seasoned, beefy outer layer. Many methods include an instruction to reverse sear (sear after cooking) your roast to increase the crispiness. We wanted to keep the flavor and food safety advantages of pre-searing but also wanted to see if a final sear could give us just one little bit of extra enjoyment. So, we cooked another rib roast. For this one, we set our ChefAlarm to 115°F (46.1°C) so that we would be able to move the meat to a hot oven with thermal room to spare. As the roast approached pull temp, we preheated a second oven to 500°F (260°C).
When the alarm sounded, we reset it to 120°F (49°C) and moved the roast to the hot oven. The roast started to sizzle and sing almost immediately. It became steadily more brown and crisp on the outside. When we reached the next alarm point (set lower to account for the increased oven heat that would drive more carryover cooking), we removed the roast, let it rest, cut into it, and were disappointed to find a very noticeable gray ring, up to 1″ thick. In the end, the thicker crust that we got from the final sear was not worth the vast swaths of rosy pink meat that were lost.
We recommend a low, slow cook preceded by a good sear. Whatever crust you may get from the final sear is just not worth the risk to the rest of this exquisite cut of meat. And with the freezer method, you can get a harder sear without worrying about a gray ring from the beginning.
How to Select the Best Prime Rib Roast:
Picking out a rib roast at the store is a big deal. You want the best roast you can get in your price range, but you don’t want to come up short at dinner. So what should you buy and how much of it should you get? Let’s look first at grading and quality.
It’s a little known fact, but the method of grading beef by the USDA is solely based on fat marbling. The more thoroughly marbled the beef, the higher the grade. Higher graded beef will be juicier, more tender, and more flavorful, but it will also cost significantly more.
Buy the highest grade you can on your budget. If you can afford Prime grade, go for it! But Choice is generally a good intersection of quality and affordability.
You may have heard that Prime Rib refers to a prime-grade rib roast. This is not true—at least, not necessarily. The term “prime rib” predates the USDA meat grading system and is a reference only to the fact that it is the best part of the rib section. In fact in the USDA Food Standards and Labeling Policy Book, (pg 146), the USDA clearly states that, “PRIME RIB OF BEEF OR STANDING BEEF RIB ROAST FOR PRIME RIB: These products do not have to be derived from USDA prime grade beef” (emphasis in original).
Prime rib can be graded USDA Prime (it will cost you!), but it can also be USDA Choice or USDA Select. “Ungraded” meat cuts are also available, but if it were my decision, I’d get a little less of the better stuff than more of the ungraded.
So how much of this delicious, pricey beef do you need? That really depends on you and your guests, but as a general rule, figure about 1/2 pound of raw roast per person on a boneless roast, or one bone per two people on a bone-in roast.
What Even Is Prime Rib?
A prime rib can go by other names—beef rib roast, ribeye roast, or standing rib roast (so called when it is bone-in and can be roasted without the meat touching the pan)—but regardless of what it is called, it comes from the 6th through 12th ribs of a steer, sandwiched between the chuck and the short loin. It is primarily composed of the longissimus dorsi muscle that runs next to the spine. Because of its location high up on the back of the steer, this muscle is not well used. This lack of use means that this muscle develops to be much more tender than, say, the rear-leg muscles (the Round of beef): it is anatomically predisposed to tenderness.
Tenderness is, of course, only one of the attractive characteristics of this cut of meat. Perhaps the most notable feature of this cut is the deep, rich fat marbling. The “eye” of the rib is encircled by a ring of fat and connective tissue, outside of which lies the “lip” of the roast. Much of the whole roast is covered by a fat cap of varying thickness. It is those seams of fat that deliver rich flavor and a velvety texture, as well as keep the meat from drying out easily.
And, just in case you prefer a different doneness temperature, here is a helpful prime rib doneness temperature chart as a downloadable image…
How to Cook the Perfect Prime Rib Roast: Recipe
- Prep Time: 2 hours
- Cook Time: 3 hours
- Total Time: 5 hours
- Category: Beef
- Method: Roasting
- Cuisine: European
Description
Perfect prime rib is all about temperature control. Here’s how to get it just right.
Ingredients
- 1 prime rib, size determined by need
- Kosher salt
- Freshly ground black pepper
Instructions
- Trim your rib how you like it best.
- Generously salt the roast, insert a thermometer probe near the edge of the roast, set the low-temp alarm of your ChefAlarm for 30°F (-1°C) and place the roast in the freezer.
- Meanwhile, preheat your oven to 225°F (107°C).
- When the low-temp alarm sounds, remove your roast from the freezer.
- Heat a heavy skillet (cast iron is preferred here) over high heat.
- Sear the roast well on all sides in the skillet.
- Season with pepper and/or any other seasonings you like.
- Place the roast on a rack set into a rimmed baking sheet. Insert a probe into the very center and set the high-temp alarm for 125°F (52°C).
- Cook the roast in the oven until the high-temp alarm sounds. Verify that there are no lower temperatures in the meat with your Thermapen Mk4.
- Remove the meat from your oven and let it rest for 30 minutes, lightly tented with foil.
- Carve and serve!
Keywords: Prime Rib Roast, Christmas Roast
Products Used:
![[alt text]](https://www.thermoworks.com/assets/images/products/ChefAlarm_Green-01.jpg)
![[alt text]](https://www.thermoworks.com/assets/images/products/TimeStack_Red-01.jpg)
![[alt text]](https://www.thermoworks.com/assets/images/products/THS-113-185_generic-01.jpg)
![[alt text]](https://www.thermoworks.com/assets/images/products/ThermaData-KTC_generic-01.jpg)
![[alt text]](https://www.thermoworks.com/assets/images/products/IRK-2_01.jpg)
References
Harold McGee, On Food and Cooking
Meathead Goldwyn, AmazingRibs.com
J. Kenji López-Alt, SeriousEats.com, The Food Lab
U.S. Department of Agriculture, USDA Food Standards and Labeling Policy Book
Bob Donnelly says
Excellent article. I’ve never cooked Prime Rib before. I will now.
Martin says
Bob,
Thank you for the compliment, and I hope it goes well when you try doing a rib! Let us know how it turns out!
Dave S says
My nephew told me about the “X method” of cooking bone-in prime rib. You can Google it. The results are absolutely perfect every single time and it couldn’t be any easier to do. No searing first….
Martin says
Dave,
I just looked it up and while it looks like it could absolutely work, it doesn’t take many factors into account (starting temp of the roast, for instance), and because it’s based on time rather than temperature, it is by default a for of “flying blind.” If I were to try that method, I would be sure to use one—if not two—leave-in probes to keep an real eye on what’s actually going on. Thanks for reading!
Greg says
Thank you for the detailed information on the different methods. A question: In another of your articles on prime rib, the cooking temperature was listed as 225F. Just curious, have you noted any significant differences in the final results in avoiding the gray band and overall taste/texture with a slightly higher or lower cooking temp?
Interesting and enjoyable comments as to the many methods people have used to prepare a prime rib with fantastic results. For larger groups, rather than buying one larger roast ( 10+ lbs), I’ve cooked two, smaller ones – love the end pieces so twice the joy! I’ve used an overnight refrigerated seasoning method ( inserted slivers of garlic around the meat and a light rosemary/salt/pepper) rub and the countertop warm up before cooking but will try sear and the lower temp approach this year.
Getting up the nerve to try my hand at smoking a $100+ roast using the tools I have from Thermoworks. Happy Holidays!
Martin says
Greg,
Thanks for your comments! We have listed 200°F as the cooking temperature before, and now 225°F. Keeping it in the “low and slow” realm is the important thing to do. If you have it already, it would be a good idea to temp your oven with an air probe, you may find that it is up to 25°F off already!
By the way, buying 2 smaller roasts is a great way to handle larger crowds! Yes, you get double end pieces (also my favorite), but smaller roasts are much easier to sear.
Again, thanks for reading and get in touch if you have questions about daring the smoker!
Good luck!
Greg says
Thanks for the good point on the empty oven temp check. Ours is a newer gas fired oven and uses convection method for roasting – but certainly not a professional model/brand. I have Dot and Smoke to help me do the oven check and an MK4 to boot for the roast.
res says
excellent, but one important modification was not addressed, which interested me.
using indoor oven stove indoors.
bbq with propane,
bbq with natural gas
bbq with charcoal
bbq with charcoal wood chips-(cherry, etc.). direct heat
bbq with charcoal wood chips-(cherry, etc.), indirect heat
bbq with charcoal wood chips-(cherry, etc.), indirect heat with water pan..
i have bbq prime rib with charcoal, wood chips-(cherry chips). indirect heat with water pan, using thermoworks temperature equipment which i must say is a must and it had a delightful flavor but i am sure you will offer more promising techniques in cooking prime rib improving the natural flavor..
.
Martin says
Res,
The thermal principles involved in each of the cooking methods you mention are the same. A mastery of any of the techniques will allow you to create a proper thermal environment for the low-slow cooking of a prime rib. You may be interested in out piece on smoking prime rib!
rick says
“When the alarm sounded, we reset it to 120°F (49°C) and moved the roast to the hot oven. The roast started to sizzle and sing almost immediately. It became steadily more brown and crisp on the outside. When we reached the nest alarm point (set lower to account for the increased oven heat that would drive more carryover cooking), we removed the roast, let it rest, cut into it, and were disappointed to find a very noticeable gray ring, up to 1″ thick”
1. What is meant by the phrase “the nest alarm point” – not used elsewhere in your article.
2. You fail to mention how long the roast was under the broiler. Perhaps a shorter time would yield acceptable crust and less thermal pressure in the spinalis dorsi?
Of note, Serious Eat’s J. Kenji Lopez Alt, has videos testing and recommending “reverse-searing” methods.
There also recommendations of doing both pre and post sears.
Finally, searing methods may also lead to different results. I’ve seen using chimney starters, Searzall device on propane torches etc.
Martin says
Rick,
Thank you for reading and for your comment. “Nest alarm point” should have been “next alarm point,” (i.e. the nest time the alarm sounds) an edit I have made in the post. Thak you for catching that and I apologize for the confusion!
You are correct that a shorter time may have yielded better results. In answering the many comments on this post, I have come to see some mistakes I may have made, including moving the roast from cooking directly to oven searing. A cool-down period may have saved it by, as you say, reducing the thermal pressure.
Thanks again and happy cooking!
Ron says
I prefer the “reverse” method: Essentially low-and-slow to desired temp. Remove roast and crank the heat to 500+(F) and return roast for 5-12 minutes to get the correct outer crust.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2015/12/step-by-step-food-lab-reverse-sear-prime-rib.html
-Ron, did somebody say Yorkshire pudding?
Martin says
Ron,
Yes please on the Yorkshire! The reverse oven sear I think can certainly work, if done correctly. Our error was perhaps having a second oven ready to go and moving the meat right into it. Removing the meat from the oven and waiting for the oven to come up to temp will give the roast a chance to cool, and moving it further from the gray-ring danger zone. Happy cooking!
Dave says
Nice write up. Two comments really. First, wish you had made and hammered home the point that cook time for PR is determined by chamber temp, starting temp AND thickness of the loin, not the weight. Lots of people mistakenly believe that since a 4 bone 8lb PR might take 4 hrs to cook, that a 7 bone 16lb PR would take twice as long.
Second, if you happen to have another loin laying around, try repeating the reverse sear method, but this time, let the loin rest for 30 mins after the initial cook, then blast it at 500 to sear.
Martin says
Dave,
Great comments! You are right about the time factor, and I should have hit that harder. I think I did address it rather well in a comment here responding to Don.
And you are probably right about the reverse sear: a counter rest allowing the meat to cool so that the sear has to re-energize the meat is a great solution. We’ll have to give it a try.
Happy cooking!
John says
This is exceptionally well done, with the obvious product mentions in place, but I love the science behind it. It doesn’t seem that many companies share the same infatuation as their customers for what their products are used for. Bravo, and I look forward to more.
– John
Martin says
John,
Thank you so much and thank you for reading!
Dr. Frederick Howard says
Great read! I’ve been a follower of Thermoworks, Meathead, J. Kenji López-Alt for awhile now with outstanding results! I have a tool belt that includes Thermapen Mk4, Smoke and other Thermoworks products too numerous to list. I’ve tried high heat roasting with great results in the past. However last year I did Prime Rib at 200 with outstanding results. You’re correct in that the gray band practically vanished as if it were done via Sous Vide. This year I’m doing a 4-bone Dry aged from Flannery Beef. I’ve got a Searzall as part of my tool kit and I think that I’ll use that for a pre sear instead of the cast iron. BTW you guys rock!! I’ve given away Thermapen’s like they were candy, no complaints whatever and you guys do stand behind your products. Hats off ???? to Thermoworks !!!
Martin says
Dr. Howard,
Thank you for your comments! We are happy to be a part of your toolkit and your kitchen. Happy cooking!
Gary Knighton says
Great information, thank you.
Don Hendrix says
This is a very interesting article. Using the freezer sit method how many minutes per pound did you roast the meat and how much kosher salt do you use? Thanks!
Martin says
Don,
I didn’t do any time calculations of minutes per pound, I only based the cooking on temperatures. There is a good geometrical reason for this: A rib roast can be idealized as a cylindrical shape, and heat will be entering the cylinder from all sides, but will be approaching the center of the cylinder from the circumference far more than the end faces. As we increase the size of the cylinder, we decrease the heat effect of the cylinder faces on the center until that effect becomes negligible.
So it is with a roast. A bigger (longer) roast (let’s say…8 pounds) of the same diameter as a shorter roast (maybe 5 pounds) will take heat to the center from the circumference of the roast more than the edges, but not significantly more so than the smaller roast, especially at these lower temperatures. A three-pound difference will not result in the same kind of cook-time differential in a rib roast as it would in, say, a chicken, the geometry of which significantly changes the surface exposure to heat. This is why w probe thermometer with an alarm is such a good idea for a roast like this.
All that being said, I used enough kosher salt to give the whole thing a nice coat A few tablespoons for a large roast should do. I usually just keep adding it until it looks “nice and salty.”
Thanks for your comment!
Dustin says
Recommended time spent in the freezer? Or, is it best to go by temperature, making sure area just under the surface is sub 32 degrees?
Martin says
Dustin,
Time is relative, as always. It is best to go with temperature. 32°F doesn’t actually freeze meat, so go a little lower. We cooled ours to 29.5°F, which was cold enough to really solidify the fat and start to freeze the meat itself. Use a probe thermometer about 1/4″ below the surface in a part of the meat that isn’t as covered with fat cap. Our roasts spent about an hour to an hour and a half in the freezer, but that will vary based on freezer temp and initial beef temp. Good luck with yours!
Michael K says
Love the science of this article, and the fact that you incorporated all of the Thermoworks products to demonstrate this! I have a sous vide, and have been wanting to try a prime rib cooked in a water bath. I am curious, though, if I cook it at 130 then do a reverse sear if the “ring” would be too big and enough heat would be applied to continue to cook the inside. Should I cook to 128 and then sear?
Just wondering what feedback, if any, you have for sous vide. THX
Martin says
Michael,
First, thanks for your comment and thanks for reading! The sous vide prime rib is actually a problem we have been considering in our demo kitchen, and you’ve hit right on some of the issues we’ve thought about. Here are my thoughts thus far on it:
First, a roast as big as a prime rib is going to take a LONG time to come up to temp in a sous vide bath, and that much time could lead to bacterial problems. Bacteria on the surface will eventually work their way down through the seams of the fat and meat in this marbled cut, and so first need to be destroyed. A quick blanch in boiling water before the actual cook would do that, and has been recommended by some for this purpose. But a pre-sear will also kill the surface bacteria and will give your meat a tasty Maillard marinade while it cooks. Your choice.
Next, there is the question of “pull temp.” With sous vide cooking, there will be NO carryover cooking. You set the temp of the whole piece of meat and you let it go until even the very center is at that temp. Because there will be no heat differential, there will be no carryover. This is excellent news for avoiding gray ring, because as long as you set it below the 140°F where meat starts to turn gray (like, for instance, 130°F for an excellent medium rare) you don’t have to worry about any gray in the meat from the cooking.
And that brings us to the final question of the sear. We found that the meat 1/4″ below the surface increased in temperature by about 25°F during a skillet sear. If you’ve cooked your meat to 130°F, you are risking a little gray in there, though as you saw from our data, we hit 150°F and had little to no ring. If you want an insurance buffer, let the roast cool outside of the sous vide bath for 20 minutes or so, and then sear it in a hot pan. The temperature reduction in the exterior of the roast will act as a buffer for the heat of searing.
If you decide to try it, we’d love to hear about it!
Ron says
I have always seasoned meats before searing. You recommend the opposite. Does the sequence differ greatly and why sear first? Thank you, great article- I’m trying your tenderloin article for Christmas and standing rib for New Years!
Martin says
Ron,
I prefer to season with the herbs after searing because I find they often just stick to the pan and not to the meat when I sear. I also like the fresh-herb flavor of adding the herbs afterward. If you are using a Montreal seasoning or just S&P, there’s no reason to wait until after the sear, as those flavors will actually wake up nicely in the sear, and the dry spices are more likely to adhere to the meat during the sear.
I’m glad you are giving these a try! let us know how they turn out!
Randy Ewers says
Thanks, excellent article ! I will give it a shot for Christmas with a massive 14lb boneless roast. I will cut it in half for easier searing.
I have 1 question, and also have summarized your process below for a “quick reference” if anyone wants them.
Question: What did you decide on salting? I assume salting it 24 hours in advance is the way to go?
Summary:
Roast Selection:
o Prime is better than Choice, but more expensive.
o 1/2 lb per person if boneless, or one bone for two people if bone-in.
o Boneless vs. bone-in is a toss-up, but they usually do boneless.
o For long roasts, may want to cut in half – easier to sear, and 4 crusty ends (delicious) vs. 2.
Cooking Instructions (for 3 lb boneless roast):
1) tie the roast up, even if boneless. If bone-in, cut the bones off but tie them back onto the muscle.
2) Salt liberally (should look “salty”, several tablespoons for a large roast)
3) Bring to fridge temperature throughout – 38F
4) Partially freeze, until outer edge reaches 29.5F – took them about 1.5 – 2 hours for 3lb roasts.
5) Sear in cast iron. Preheat cast iron to 500F. Sear 2.5 minutes per side (perhaps different for long cylindrical prime roast).
6) Add seasoning (optional) AFTER the sear so it does not stick to the pan. “Salt and pepper is all you need. Or make wet rub of 3 cloves minced garlic, the minced leaves of 2 fresh rosemary sprigs, 1 teaspoon black pepper, 1.5 tablespoons dijon mustard, and 1/4 cup olive oil. Apply it after your sear and you will be hailed as a luminary of the kitchen.”
7) Cook at 225. Use an air probe to confirm oven temp if you have one.
8) Pull at 125F (maybe lower for larger roast). We are shooting for final temp of 130F after resting. Exterior temp when pulled will likely be around 150, just where meat starts to turn gray (140F).
9) Cover with foil and rest 30 minutes.
Martin says
Randy,
Looks like a good summary! Salting overnight is probably just fine, a full 24 hours won’t hurt a thing. Enjoy and let us know how it goes!
Art Schwartzstein says
As between the freezer first or no freezer first, was the taste test a “blind” taste test. It seems like you might have been sufficiently influenced by the size of the gray ring and extra effort spent to find a difference that may not be noticeable. And, whether or not noticeable around the edge, has there been a blind taste test for the meat in the center? Thanks for the fun analysis.
Martin says
Art,
Yes, we did do blind tests on the center meat. The meat from each was delicious, but not all that different. As long as the cuts are of equal quality, and the centers are cooked to equal temps, the centers will be pretty similar. The edges are where a roast that is properly done starts to differentiate itself. Thanks for reading!
lourdes goodman says
This was a very interesting article, I especially liked the information about enzymes & what temps to keep in mind for that range to have that extra bit of help from them. I’ve made a roast with reverse sear twice before but time between makes me feel like a newbie everytime so I like to review info. I’m definitely trying the sear in pan first. Thank you!
Martin says
Lourdes,
I’m glad you liked this info. I think everyone feels like a newbie every time they cook this cut, because most people only cook about once a year, so you are not alone! I hope our post helps you with your next cook. Happy cooking!
Sandra Currie says
Our rib roast was amazing because of your directions and insight. I made my first standing rib roast (3 ribs) New Year’s Day after much studying of your cooking method. I was always fearful of ruining such a fine and expensive roast. Thanks to your meticulous instructions, it turned out perfectly. I am getting way more credit than I deserve because it really belongs to you and Thermoworks Signals and Thermapen One.
Thank you for your gift of knowledge and detail. I will be working my way through more blog recipes because of this success.
★★★★★