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Home » How to Make Pho: Recipe, With Temps for Raw Meat

How to Make Pho: Recipe, With Temps for Raw Meat

Homemade pho soup
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Author: Martin Earl

You may have noticed that this blog tends to speak a lot in superlatives: “the best steak,” “your new favorite,” and “best cut of beef” are all things you can find here. There’s a good reason for it, though. We try to only publish something that’s going to be fantastic, especially if you follow the thermal advice that we stress.

What I hope, though—beyond my hope that you are eating better because of what you read here—is that all those superlatives don’t undercut each other and undermine this next superlative:

There is no soup better than Vietnamese pho.

Yes, other soups can be as good—prime examples that come to mind include carefully made real ramen, Mexican posole, Thai tom kha, and homemade matzo ball soup. But none of these is better than pho. Especially in winter, when you’re fighting a head cold, a cold front, or just the cold dread of creeping existential uncertainty, there is absolutely nothing better than a bowl of hot, fragrant, soothing pho.

If you’ve ever had this masterful creation, you know. If not, then the time has certainly come! Here, I want to lay out a fantastic method, originated by J. Kenji López-alt at SeriousEats.com, for one-hour pho. I also want to talk about some thermal principles that can put your mind at ease when it comes to one of my favorite parts of pho: the sliced raw meat that barely cooks in the hot broth. Hungry? Let’s dig in.

Homemade pho recipe

What is pho?

Pho is a broth-based soup, originally from the northern regions of Vietnam. It is warmly seasoned with cinnamon, fennel, cloves, and star anise. The broth has no cream or milk, but is nonetheless rich and unctuous with a gentle layer of fat floating atop and loads of gelatin within. It is served with rice noodles (noodle variety varies by region and style) and is usually accompanied by limes, bean sprouts, hoisin sauce, thin-sliced onion, and fresh herbs which are torn by the eater and mixed into the soup right before it is eaten.

A hot bowl of homemade pho soup

Oh, and there’s meat. Pho is often served with meatballs, sliced cooked brisket (don’t be afraid to try it with smoked brisket, though it isn’t traditional), and, as mentioned above, raw sliced beef that is added to the bowl to be cooked by the hot broth.

Ladling hot pho broth over raw beef

The result is a fragrant symphony of unparalleled restorative goodness.

How to make pho faster

Traditionally, pho is cooked for hours and hours, slowly simmering the gelatin from beef bones into the liquid, and we do recommend you take a Saturday sometime and try that method; it is very rewarding. But Kenji has shown that a very good pho can be accomplished in much less time if one thinks analytically about what makes pho great.

Rather than depend on slow seeping of large cuts, Kenji opts for a fast cook with meat that is, in essence, ground. He starts with collagen-rich beef chuck and chicken wings, chops and grinds them to a pasty consistency, then uses the french consommé method for creating a strong, clear broth. The chopped meat has more surface area and can therefore leach its gelatin out more quickly. To make up for any loss of gelatinous goodness, he also adds plain gelatin to the broth. The whole simmering process takes only about an hour, and the results are very tasty.

cutting chicken wings
adding meat paste to broth
stirring meat into the broth
the broth simmering through the raft

Is the raw meat in pho safe?

The first time I ate pho I was a little freaked out by the slices of raw beef that came to table with the very large bowl of broth and noodles. Was this going to be ok?

When making pho at home, you can certainly check to make sure it’s safe. When you’re assembling your bowl of pho, take the temperature of the broth before ladling it out. You want a temperature that’s pretty close to boiling to make sure there’s enough heat to stay hot in your bowl and cook the slices of meat.

Thermapen® ONE is great for temping your pho for two reasons. Not only is it fast and accurate, giving you a true temp for your broth well before a dial thermometer can give you a wrong result, but its tiny sensor in the tip can even take the temperature inside the thin slices of meat swimming in the broth.

The broth in the pan was 206°F
The broth in the bowl cooled to 174°F
The temp in the meat was 155°F—medium well

Our pho broth cooled instantly when it hit the bowl, but was still hot enough to cook our beef to medium-well. While we generally prefer our steak done to medium-rare, this meat was supple and tender and, we know, very safe. If you want your meat cooked a little less, you can let the broth cool more or add the noodles to the bowl to suck up some of the heat from the broth.

You might not need to use a Thermapen every time you make it, but give it a try to see how well the meat cooks. You can play with different broth temperatures, different thicknesses of meat, different proportions. When you nail it down just right, you can write it in your recipe and get consistent results every time. It is, at the very least, a fun cooking-science experiment.


Making something as marvelously delicious as pho is incredibly rewarding. It makes your house smell amazing and, well, you end up with pho! Make this to feel better, make it to prove that you can, make it to have fun playing with temperature in your own kitchen. Make it and be rewarded with one of the world’s greatest dishes. Happy cooking!

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Homemade pho soup

How to Make Pho: Recipe, With Temps

  • Author: Martin
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“Quick” pho, adapting the method from J. Kenji López-alt at SeriousEats.com


Ingredients

Pho ingredients

  • 1 cinnamon stick
  • 3 whole star anise pods
  • 1 tsp whole fennel seeds
  • 4 cloves
  • 1 tsp whole coriander seeds
  • 1 lb beef chuck, cut into 1” chunks, very cold
  • 1 1/2 lb chicken wings, roughly cut with kitchen shears into 1” pieces, very cold
  • 1 egg white
  • 2 qt low-salt chicken stock
  • 1 oz (four packets) plain powdered gelatin
  • 1 Tbsp vegetable oil
  • 1 (4-inch) piece ginger, split in half lengthwise
  • 2 medium onions, cut in half
  • 2 Tbsp sugar (raw cane sugar [piconcillo] preferred, brown sugar next, then white sugar)
  • 1/4 C fish sauce, plus more to taste
  • 3/4 lb flank steak, divided in half

To Serve:

  • 4 servings pho noodles, prepared according to package directions
  • 2 C mixed herbs (cilantro, Thai basil, and mint)
  • 2 C trimmed bean sprouts
  • 1/2 C sliced scallions
  • Thinly sliced onions
  • Thinly sliced chilis
  • 2 limes, cut into wedges
  • Hoisin sauce and Sriracha

Pho ingredients


Instructions

Make the meat-mash

  • Portion out 2 cups of the stock in a bowl and sprinkle with the dry gelatin. Allow it to sit while you complete a few more steps. The gelatin will absorb the cool liquid, a process called “blooming.”

blooming gelatin in chicken stock

  • Meanwhile, combine the chicken chunks and chuck chunks with the egg white in a bowl, mix to combine.

Combining beef, chicken, and egg white

  • Run the meat mixture through your food processor in small batches. (The chicken bones should not harm the blade or the processor. If your processor is weak or fragile, just grind the beef with the egg white and combine it with the shear-cut chicken wings.) Pulse each batch 12–15 times for 1 second each pulse. The result will look a lot like ground beef, but with little shards of chicken bone in it.

Blaneing the meat with the chicken and the egg white

 

Make the broth

  • Tie the spices in a small packet of cheesecloth.

Making the spice packet

  • Heat the tablespoon of oil in a large, heavy-bottomed pot. When it is smoking hot, place the onions and the ginger pieces, cut-side down, in the oil, and cook until they char, 3–5 minutes.
  • Turn the onions and ginger over and cook for a few minutes on their backs until they start to char.

Charred onions and ginger in the pot

  • Add the stock/gelatin mixture, the rest of the stock, the fish sauce, one of the pieces of flank steak, the spice packet, and the sugar to the pot. Bring to a boil.

The beginnings of a good pho broth

  • Reduce the heat to a simmer and stir in the meat-paste mixture. As that mixture cooks, it will rise to the top. This is called a raft. Do not break it up.

Stirring the meat paste into the broth

  • Allow the broth to simmer up through the raft, depositing impurities on top and becoming more clear.
  • Simmer slowly for 45 minutes, uncovered.

the broth simmering through the raft

Timing the broth cook

Strain broth and prepare for service

  • Once the broth is well infused and you just can’t stand how delicious it smells without eating it any longer, use a slotted spoon to remove the raft from the pot. Fish out the spice packet and the onions.
  • Pour the broth through a fine-mesh sieve or a few layers of cheesecloth into another pot.

Straining the broth

  • Remove the piece of cooked flank steak and cut it into cubes to divide among the bowls.
  • Keep the broth warm over a low flame until you’re ready to serve.

temping the broth

  • Slice the remaining (raw) flank steak thinly across the grain. Portion it into four large bowls.

sliced, raw steak in a soup bowl for pho

  • Take the temperature of your broth with your Thermapen ONE. It should be in the neighborhood of 200°F (93°C).
  • Ladle the hot broth over the raw meat in one of the soup bowls. Stir it for a moment, then take the temperature of the broth and the meat again with your Thermapen. The meat should be at least 130°F (57°C), medium-rare. If you like the doneness of the meat, ladle the broth into the other bowls. If you want it more or less done, heat or cool the broth more before ladling it into the other bowls.
  • Add the prepared rice noodles to the bowls and serve!

Adding noodles to pho

  • Let each person add torn herbs, lime juice, chilies, bean sprouts, and all the other toppings themselves.

Homemade pho soup


Notes

There will be no leftovers. Maybe double the batch next time?

The broth can be made ahead of time in large batches if you like. Then you can just boil it up, temp it, and serve it.


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