Reheating BBQ

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    1. Not really, no. Smoke absorption happens best while meat is raw, so smoking a cooked roast will not be very effective. YOu will get a little smokiness on the outside, but not much.

  1. I’m a little confused. If you sous vide at 165 degrees, why wouldn’t the meat eventually get to that temperature? If I’m cooking sous vide doesn’t the temperature of the food get to the temperature of the water bath?

    1. Technically, you could reheat at your target temperature, but it will take much, much longer to get there. As the gap between the ambient temperature and the food temperature narrows, the rate of temperature change slows. Closing the gap in those last few degrees takes way too long. Since we’re talking about destroying toxins here, not just killing bacteria, reaching the actual temperature is key. By increasing the water bath temp by 5 or 10 degrees above your target, you get to where you’re going without hanging out in the water bath for too long.

  2. I understand as many variables but in your case how long does it take to get to meet up to 165 and a bath water of 175

    1. In the case of our frozen brisket point, it took about 2-1/2 hours. Non-frozen food will take much less time.

  3. This article seems counter intuitive. For example, I originally cook some rib eyes via sous vide at 132 degrees and I end up with leftovers. You’re saying that when I reheat those leftovers, I now have to heat it to 165 degrees? They weren’t even cooked to that temperature in the first place (not to mention they are now going to be “well done”) and my instincts tell me that there is a greater possibility of less “bugs” on the reheating vs the original raw. I understand with a brisket that was originally brought to 200 degrees, its no big deal to reheat to 165 but a lot of other food is cooked below 165 degrees.

    1. Ken,
      You raise a point that is interesting and fair. I hope I can address it well enough. I’ll use Staph as the type bacteria for what we’re trying to protect against in this case, but there are other bacteria that can cause the same problems.

      The reason we worry about leftovers is the fact that they usually sat out for some time before being put away, and usually in the presence of people. If food is cooked, served, and promptly stored in proper temperature conditions, the chances of Staph multiplying on the food are very low. But if you had an outdoor cookout and the brisket sat there for a while, it’s much riskier.

      Really, we’re worried about bugs that are added to the food after cooking. These toxin-producing bacteria are also more likely to get into food if the food or the serving utensils have been handled by more people. So if only you touched your steak and no one else’s hands touched the utensils you used, then, again, it’s probably very safe, assuming you don’t have staph on your skin. (This is also why employees MUST wash their hands before working with meat at butcher shops, grocery stores, etc.—to keep their staph off of things)

      But here’s the kicker. A lot of food safety best practices are based on the protection of the weakest: the elderly, the young, the immunocompromised. The food codes are written so that nearly anyone should be able to eat any food produced by following them. Is it sometimes overkill? Maybe. Do I want to be the one that sends Grandma to her death because she ate my BBQ taco salad? No sir! It would be irresponsible of me when writing this blog to endanger those whose lives and health depend on proper food care, so I try to stick to the food code. If you want your leftover ribeye to stay medium rare—as I would!—then there is another level of risk that you choose to accept. If that risk/reward payout looks good for you, then by all means cook it how you see fit. If we were to make all foods 100% safe all the time it would be a pretty boring life, but the choice on how much risk should be taken is based on an informed decision.

      I hope that helps. Happy cooking!

      1. Excellent reply! Staph and it’s nasty little cousins are nothing to be trifled with. Those guys kill and maim for a living. Stay safe and heat all leftovers to that magic 165 degrees mark and toss that potato salad and other mayonnaise based salads in the trash if they are allowed to get above 60 degrees for any length of time.

        My favorite way to utilize leftover ribeyes is to slice them very thin, sauté them in butter with onion and garlic to that 165, top with shredded sharp cheddar and pico d’gallo, toss on a flour tortilla and enjoy!

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  5. Yes, heating to 165 will kill the bacteria. But so will will bringing it to 145 degrees for ten minutes. Killing bacteria is a matter of temperature AND time. According to this authority,

    “At 165 degrees, almost all bacteria are killed almost immediately, while at 135 degrees it takes well over an hour for enough to die to achieve the 7 log10 standard. Similarly, 145 degrees takes less than 10 minutes, while 155 degrees less than 1 minute.”
    https://rbutterworth.nfshost.com/Lies/CookHot/#:~:text=At%20165%20degrees%2C%20almost%20all,degrees%20less%20than%201%20minute.

    1. This is true of the bacteria, but one of the concerns with leftovers is the toxins that are produced by the bacteria that can remain on the food after the bacteria are killed. This is especially true of the toxin created by staph bacteria. Higher cooking temps can denature that toxin.

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