Pink, but safe, chicken

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  1. While most of this article is good there are many thermophilic bacteria that can withstand temperatures at or above 165F (even as high as 220F), but NONE of these bacteria are known to cause disease, nor would they ever be found on a chicken or in a kitchen.

  2. How funny – I JUST had this happen tonight with some HUGE bone-in breasts that I baked, but I knew I was good to eat it because I did check with my Thermapen and got a reading of 167!

  3. From Alan Bowman via Facebook: Interesting. As a competition judge, we are taught to automatically disqualify any entry that contains any trace of blood…and I’m OK with that.

    1. There’s no blood. The red you see is myoglobin and after reading this article you should advocate to change the competition rules.

      1. Maybe at home when you check the temp but in restaurants you don’t know that they didn’t go by the look to judge that it is done. I worked as a correctional officer supervisor in a prison kitchen and we cooked large quantities of chicken leg quarters (fried and baked). I would check numerous pieces for temperature in each batch for a temperature of at least 180 to 200 degrees. Putting any pink chicken out the serving window could have led to a riot.

  4. Thanks for the data on Is bloody chicken an indication that it’s been undercooked? | ThermoWorks.com, it will likely be genuinely helpful.

  5. It’s funny how we will eat raw fish, or rare beef, but cringe at bloody chicken.

    Thank you for the update. You changed my mind (but probably not my guests).

    1. Alison,

      Great question! There is lower air pressure at higher altitude, and because of that water doesn’t have as much pressure to overcome in the boiling process. The most profound effects of high altitude are with boiling points and landmark temperatures for sugar cooking stages. Read through our article, High Altitude and Its Effects on Cooking. With all the havoc high altitude can wreak in the kitchen, it does not affect doneness temperatures with meat. No need to worry about adjusting temperatures there.

      Thank you for your question!
      -Kim

  6. So which temperature is it? First it said the magic number is 165 and all food born pathogens would be instantly killed, but then it said to cook the leg until 175.

    1. De,

      There are two different major landmarks with cooking chicken and turkey: 165°F and 175°F. 165°F is the temperature the food should be cook to for food safety. The higher temperature for the legs is for eating quality purposes, not food safety. The legs are more actively worked muscles of the animal, the meat is tougher and contains connective tissues that need higher temperatures in order to properly dissolve. The leg meat is safe to eat at 165°F, but for tender and juicy leg meat it is recommended to cook it to higher temperatures.

      Thank you for your comment,
      -Kim

  7. Could bacteria such as salmonella continue to survive in the marrow of chicken cooked to an internal temperature of 165°F, and then leak out of the bones into the meat?

    1. Eliat,

      Great question! As long as the bones and marrow reach a safe pasteurization temperature, there isn’t any reason to worry about pathogens from the marrow leaching into the meat.

      I looked around for some information on the level of pathogens contained in chicken bone marrow since most pathogens live on the surface of the skin and meat. According to this dissertation on the the level of salmonella in the carcass bone marrow and neck skin of a broiler chicken at the University of Georgia, salmonella prevalence in the bone marrow was only 0.8%, while the level in the neck skin was 21.4%.

      The level of salmonella in the marrow is very negligible in comparison to the rest of the bird. As long as your temperatures are held at pasteurization levels for the appropriate amount of time, there isn’t any reason to worry about pathogens contaminating the meat from absorbed marrow.

      Thank you for your question!
      -Kim

  8. Ray,

    So glad to hear the Thermapen has been so helpful in improving your family meals! Understanding how temperature affects food, and using professional temperature tools is really a game-changer. Hopefully this info will have you confidently preparing juicy chicken!

    Thanks for your comment,
    -Kim

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  15. This is great info. Most people are so skittish when it comes to chicken but will eat beef tartare, poke, and sashimi and those are all raw! They’ll also eat fries and veggies raw even though they can harbor salmonella.
    Interestingly, there’s a sushi restaurant in Japan that actually serves raw chicken! Not that I’m recommending it but it goes to show that you don’t automatically get sick from chicken that’s raw, undercooked, or properly cooked and still pink.

  16. Correction for you city folks: Chickens are not flightless birds. We clip the wings so they don’t fly all over the place.

  17. Charcoal grilled chicken is a staple in our household and has been for many, many years (I am 80). Bone-in, skin on chicken breast comes off the grill between 153-155 degrees and thigh/leg at 175. It goes right to a cutting board, covered with tin foil and sits for no less than 10 minutes. We get perfectly cooked, juicy chicken every time and have never had a problem

  18. Read The Food Lab book by kenji lopez. Tells you its not just temp. Its time and temp. I cook all my chicken to 155 deg and hold it at that temp for 60 seconds and its so juicy and flavorful and safe to eat.

    1. For breasts, we usually pull at 157°F, for thighs, we don’t pull until after 175°F because of the extra connective tissue.

  19. So–do I consider ‘residual’ cooking /heat when cooking a chicken breast? (ie: pull at 160F knowing it will rise when it wrap and rest?

    thanks!

  20. ThermoWorks, I love your products and blog. But it seems that this old article has been outdated by your newer posts which advise temperatures of 157 for chicken and 155 for turkey. Why did I just receive an email from you with this old post?

    Thanks for great products.

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